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bikecabbie
18-02-2006, 02:29
In San Diego, make sure you do not hire turkish students to operate your pedi-cabs.
Won't you tell us some reasons for your opinion?
Some horrified experiences? :rolleyes:
rickshaw92
19-02-2006, 23:48
please tell.
Trixi.com
20-02-2006, 12:53
It would be nice if you could explain WHY NOT to hire TURKISH drivers...
Thanx
At Bugbugs, they got riders from all over the world & it's the best thing, as you get to learn about different cultures & make friends all over the globe. Got a bunch of friends from Columbia, Poland, Norway, Brasil, America, Canada, France, Lithuania, Spain, Germany, Norway, South Africa, New Zealand, Australia, Italy, India, Pakistan, Sweden & England. To just name a few, thats more holiday destinations, then I have money to fly to.
So you may not like one person but to say that about a race means a you have the problem.
Supersaddle
03-03-2006, 13:20
in london dont employ the friggan colombians - bunch of nasty little theives and rapists
Sad to read you narrow mind but there are many cool guys & girls doing pedicabs all over the world. It's sad when you get some one with such a sad view of the world but I'm sure its just your mind you live in.
I've meet many, some of whom I don't get on with BUT they are from all races & when you start to talking to each other, thats when you move forward in this world comunaty. Pedicab, work hard & be happy.:)
bikecabs
28-01-2007, 09:03
I recently posted a message that refered to "NOT HIRING TURKS". I realize that not all of you share my opinion. That is okay. Racism has nothing to do with my views. I have witnessed "certain" pedicab drivers from "certain" parts of the world overcharging whenever possible. This practice of overcharging is killing our buisness. What would normally be a 10-20$ ride they charge 30-40$. I've heard complaints from many customers and most of them are tourists. Most unsuspecting customers assume that we are all out there working hard and following industry standards. And when they suffer the misfortune of taking a ride with one of these guys the customer pays the price. Most people will pay instead of causing a scene. They walk away feeling slighted and will never ride again. One way they "work their magic" is by exploiting the language barrier. I could go on and on. The point is that this greedy type of buisness practice cannot be allowed.
Trixi.com
28-01-2007, 22:07
I recently posted a message that refered to "NOT HIRING TURKS". I realize that not all of you share my opinion. That is okay. Racism has nothing to do with my views. I have witnessed "certain" pedicab drivers from "certain" parts of the world overcharging whenever possible. This practice of overcharging is killing our buisness. What would normally be a 10-20$ ride they charge 30-40$. I've heard complaints from many customers and most of them are tourists. Most unsuspecting customers assume that we are all out there working hard and following industry standards. And when they suffer the misfortune of taking a ride with one of these guys the customer pays the price. Most people will pay instead of causing a scene. They walk away feeling slighted and will never ride again. One way they "work their magic" is by exploiting the language barrier. I could go on and on. The point is that this greedy type of buisness practice cannot be allowed.
I agree with bikecabs: Cheating clients damages the industry.
I will tell you how we work in Barcelona:
1. Fixed price. All drivers charges the same.
2. Prices are transparent and visible:
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3. We control our drivers and send "clients" to them which do after the trip a report for us...These "facke clients" are usually stupid looking foreigners with a NIKON camera and white tennis socks - my friends - well prepared... ;-). ou
Sometimes I do a kind of enquiry to the client after finishing the trip with one of our drivers:
- How was your trip
- Where did you go
- How much did you pay
and so on...of course I give the client the feeling that we are doing an enquiry to get better with our service....Most of them participate and are happy that we take there opinion....
4. When we see that somebody is cheating clients we kick them....
This is of course in the hands of the operators - not of the drivers. A fixed price works good for us....Happy clients will always give a very good tip.... There is no reason to cheat them....Threat the clients as you would like to be threated taking a pedicab anywhere else.
I agree: Riders cheating the clients or riders not respecting traffic rules are damaging the sector worldwide.
STOPP THIS NOW! Kick cheating drivers before they burn the sector or your company.
PS: Cheating riders is not a question / problem of nationalities, but of serious problems of the operators....They should do a better work - control them - giving training etc....
In one of our trainings I had a interested person, he said: I was waiter in the Rambla....and when a tourist asked for a small beer I brought them always the big one (1 liter)....Tourist are like a cow....
Of course he never worked as a pedicab driver....he was "contaminated" already...
rickshaw92
01-02-2007, 09:13
How far does 6e get you? In Toronto we have posted rates of 3$ per block per person, its a license to print money and still we have a few who over charge. Thankfuly I will not be returning to that cesspool of a city. As far as the Turks go I have always found them to be a nice enough lot, good food and beer in Turkey.
Traptterr
27-02-2008, 08:04
Pedicab operating is a independent business, the only must about charging should be visable price tag I think. Because nobody can decide the "normal price" if there is no rules and regulations about rates.
At the end most of the Turkish riders are always charging more than others nationalities in San Diego because of some reasons. You are free to hire them or not, but for sure they can find a bike to ride : )
The problem of overcharging is not one group it's lack of training, lack of control of the indrustry, and people who ever they are not being concerned with anyone but themselfs.
Please don't point fingers at anyone but the operator who rents to them and dosen't care about anything but renting a bike. The ones who overcharge must not ever be concerned that they will ever give this person a ride again. Me, I want my clients to tell stories of how great the ride is and then tell all their friends to ride with that guy, cause he is cool.
Overcharging will even reflect on the advertiser who has their name on the back of the cab. You never know who is riding in your cab, EVER.:eek: Having an advertiser not happy cause their best friend rode and got overcharged will cost the operator big bucks in the long run.
davidgunn
03-03-2008, 18:05
Hello All.
I just wanted to add my two cents to this discussion. We are working hard here in San Diego with the City and the Police to establish new regulations for the Pedicabs, as we have discussed. The general way of thinking regarding charging is interesting, and makes a lot of sense to me. Here the Police are aware of the potential for drivers to gouge their guests. The first thing to understand is that because we are not regulated in how we charge, if a customer does not pay it is not illegal. It would be a civil matter, as opposed to criminal. In other words, if you tell a cop, "officer, we had an agreement and this customer didn't pay me" a cop will simply say, "sue him, it's not a crime".
With that in mind, we are working on a great way to charge which will protect our guests and drivers as well. The proposed rule will simply be that each Pedicab that operates in the City must clearly (standard fonts and sizes) post their rates. The driver can post whatever he/she wants, and the customer can choose to ride based on the clearly displayed price. A person can walk down the line and jump in with which ever driver has the most attractive rates. The City doesn't want to get involved as far as what we charge, just HOW we charge. I firmly believe that the price of a ride should vary depending on distance traveled and demand for service. As long as a guest knows what they are being charged he/she can make a decision before they take the ride. It is usually the drivers who charge AFTER the ride is over who hit the guests with a crazy amount.
We all know overcharging is bad. I think we are on to something which is a simple but effective fix. It will be interesting to see how it works once the regulations go into place.
Come on mate, tell us the truth, you are either Greek or Armenian :)))))
Come on mate, tell us the truth, you are either Greek or Armenian :)))))
Hi Ricky, Who are you asking that question?
I think I can smell that traditional wiff of irony or some dark humour - that sense of fun pocking can be great as a pedicabber, as you never get the same ride twice. One thing, if you do look after your passengers, then you are sure to get another ride, less hassle and no bad feelings at the end. It is possible to meet bad people on both sides of the fence but you do get back what you put out.
Some groups may be fare from home and money does not grow on trees, I know of a bunch of guys who had to charge lots for the ride as they only had a short time to lift - (yes I know) :)
(must keep of the weekday boos)